I ran across this article the other day and thought it was very interesting. How do you feel about hunting with dogs?
Hunters have many different opinions about hunting with dogs.
It seems everyone has different opinions on this issue. I have never been deer hunting with the help of a canine, but I bet it is very exciting. I have had the help of a tracking dog to help me recover one of the trophy bucks that I harvested, and without the dog I don’t believe the buck would have been recovered. I have heard stories about people killing big bucks deer hunting with dogs. The only issue I have with it is if the dogs run over on another mans property while he is in the stand, and messes his hunt up. Just this year I was in the stand and it was perfect time to see a deer, when all of the sudden I hear dogs coming my way. They eventually came by me and I wanted to shoot those dogs, I know plenty of hunters who would have but I just couldn’t do it since one of them had a collar. I was very frustrated that these dogs had messed up my deer hunting. But did that give me the right to shoot another mans dogs? I really don’t know, I wanted to but I just couldn’t do it.
Here’s the article I ran acros the other day.
The History Of Hunting With Dogs
Perhaps one of the oldest activities on earth is hunting with dogs. The history of hunting, as a consequence, is also one of the most complex and diverse. Hunting for food has always been something that human kind was obligated by nature to do, dating back to the very beginning of any civilizations known to the human kind. As a result of the above mentioned, there have been literally thousands of weapons as well as devices used for hunting purposes. The long and complex history of hunting is way more complicated than any other history in the world, as it dates back to the begging of the human race.
In order to fully understand this history, humans need to break down and study each era where hunting has been a crucial part of life. Although there are very exact timelines of when certain weapons or guns were manufactured, understanding the great importance of hunting should be done on a far broader scale. There is a lot more to the history of hunting than when the gun was initially created. Regarding hunting dogs, some were developed for waterfowl such as the retrievers because they have the ability to go into the water and bring back to the hunter the downed bird. Other dogs were created for upland birds, like the pointers or the setters.
Dogs played an important role in the development of the hunting history as it helped humans survive and even today they are used for hunting purposes. Although for a lot of people, hunting with dogs it is considered to be a sport, for many other people it means survival and putting food on the table. In the prehistoric periods, people hunted for food as well as leather for clothing and fur but as the society became less nomadic and agriculture expanded, the importance of the hunting activity diminished but didn’t disappear.
Even in the 13th there were a few laws regarding the fact that people were forbidden to hunt during the breeding season in order to insure the conservation of game animals. The gunpowder and the firearm are quite recent but bows, arrows, snares and traps have all been used to animals. The hunting dogs were created in order to point and “set” game birds thus allowing the handlers to toss a net over birds. The faster dogs were primarily used for chasing down game. Falcons and eagles have been used in the capacity of hunters. With the domestication of the horse, the human had a means of speed to get alongside big game such as the bison in the North American continent.
The early hunters used methods of digging pits as a game trap and running larger game off the cliffs as a means of survival. Nowadays the most common hunting methods are: still hunting, stand hunting, stalking and driving. Still hunting consists of tracking animals when it is known they are in the area but they are not sighted. Stand hunting is about taking a position and waiting for the game to go by. Stalking takes place when the targeted animal is spotted but out of the hunter’s range and he moves within that range while trying to stay out of sight. Driving is done when a group of hunters deliberately make noise in order to drive the animals in range or past armed hunters.
All things considered, the hunting activity played a major part in the development of the human kind and still is very important for some people not only as a sport but also as a primary way of survival in remote exotic areas.
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dale says:
February 16, 2009 at 5:32 pm (UTC -5 )
With Dogs? You mean that the rifle which can reach 400 yards is not enough? If you need dogs to get a deer you should just forget about deer hunting. http://www.sportsmansparadiseonline.com
PAM says:
February 23, 2009 at 8:42 am (UTC -5 )
I think we should be able to hunt with dogs. I have been doing it as long as I can remember and I have three kids ages 18,16 & 14 that i have been taking ever since there where the age of 2, whether it be coloring in the bottom of the stand or sitting next to me in the stand or on a trail waiting to see a deer. It is a sport that we put alot of money and time in just like any other sport. But now that is being effected, What happened to the land belonging to the people, we have no rights anymore, they are slowly being taken away. All hunters need to stick together and fight to keep the land and the sport alive
Long says:
May 5, 2009 at 9:29 am (UTC -5 )
Still Hunting is simple. Anyone can shoot a deer standing still in a food plot. It’s not even fair. I guarantee that the people that say deer hunting with dogs is easy has never really experienced it. I promise you I could take someone that has been still hunting their whole lives with me one day and they couldn’t hit a barn. It’s alot harder to hit a deer running 35 mph and about 4inches off the ground with their ears laid back than practically target practicing with still hunting. I promise you it’s greater hunting and the love for hunting is more also, and just to tell yall still hunters our dogs cant read posted signs, and if you forget remeber theres people who feed those dogs and those dogs mean more to them than you do so if you put your hands on them or shoot them….just put it this way it wont be pretty. So you do your thing and i’ll do mine.
Florida Hunting Guy says:
June 28, 2009 at 6:48 pm (UTC -5 )
First I love nature, staying under the sun walking to get my catch, so there’s no reason to get dogs. Second, dogs are dangerous (I mean to him) if there are other hunters around. they could have mistaken him for a deer or something. It’s bad losing a dog in that way…
headsplitter says:
July 25, 2009 at 12:21 pm (UTC -5 )
Dogs are the best way to hunt,More of a sport in the hunt,Not for those that can”t hunt.Who think that killing like a sniper is a sport.Are a sucker punch is boxing,The two are paralell.
Hunting in south Carolina says:
September 1, 2009 at 5:25 pm (UTC -5 )
This is my opinion. I am a 20 year old girl. I have been deer hunting since i can remember. I was raised in the woods. Me and my daddy and grandaddy have always hunted together. Hunting with dogs is not only about the killing of deer. I is a good way to meet new people and bond with your family. There is nothing wrong with hunting with dogs. People complain about dogs running at their deer stands. But those dog’s owners are not doing it the legal way. They are illegally hunting on someone else land. They are dropping the tailgates on the side of road that have no business doing so. We are a member of a hunting club in nichols, sc and i love it. I would rather be in the woods than somewhere at Myrtle Beach. It is a good way to raise your family. I have gotten closer to my daddy and grandaddy in the past 4 year than i have ever been. It is also about raising your dog to do what they are suppose to. And then when they run accross the road in front of the pack running a monster buck, it makes it all worthwill. So there are other things to deer hunting than just harvesting a deer.
tre says:
November 14, 2009 at 9:39 am (UTC -5 )
A lot of stand hunters thinks it wrong to hunt with dogs but dogs enjoy it also some people say its easy to kill the deer but its hard to kill a deer with dogs kause when the deer comes cross the road he’s running 30 to 4o mph plus you dont know when he coming because the dogs dont even be that close the deer come cross the road the dogs arrive 2 to 5 minutes later plus a bucks going to stay in the woods its not that often you see a buck come cross the road but i do give it to steel hunters because i couldnt stay in a treestand all day.
Sharkbait says:
November 14, 2009 at 8:44 pm (UTC -5 )
I have hunted all over the U.S. and I currently live in NC and I have hunted with dogs since I was a kid in VA. I am 30 and have a 5 year old son and he has killed 2 deer and never been in a tree. I belong to a still hunting club here in NC but I go run dogs on the gamelands. But for the first 2 weeks of gun season in VA I go off to VA to hunt with the club that I grew up hunting at with friends and family and this year my boy is going with me. The sound those hounds make when there on the chase is like music. And yes I own 4 hunting dogs and they get treated like my house dog, so I could’nt tell you what I would do if someone hurt them but it would’nt be nice.
Deer says:
November 24, 2009 at 12:36 pm (UTC -5 )
Here is the deal. Dog hunting did not appeal to me the couple of times that I have gone. It was too easy, too un-ethical, too lazy, and too trashy. Anyone can drive around in a big piece-of-crap truck snorting cocaine and drinking beer while chasing dogs with five other trucks all talking to each other on CB radios. This is a lazy, fat mans sport; loved because of it’s mixing of trucks, guns, drugs, speed, ease, alcohol, and killing anything that moves. Why is it that in dog hunting areas everyone uses semi-auto rifles? Why is the biggest deer shot in these areas usually 120 pounds or less? It is a shame that we let people hunt in this manner. It takes patience, skill, and intelligence to still hunt effectively. One must find a hunting spot, craftily slip in downwind on that perfect day, sit still, wait for hours, and when the moment comes, make a skillfully long shot with the rifle in which you love so much. With dog hunting you ride around to get in front of the dogs, wait until the deer jumps the road, shoot down the road multiple times and then drive your loud annoying P.O.S. truck to the dead doe or extremely small buck and yell “I got one, Pa!!!!” You then collect all of your dogs, if you can find all of them. If not, who cares? They are just “deer dogs”. Come hunt the Apalachicola National Forest or Aucilla Wildlife Management area in Florida. You will then hate dog hunters, too. It isn’t the sport I hate, because doing it right could be fun and safe, although simple. It is the 95% of Deliverance people that dog hunt for deer in America that I cant stand!!
James says:
November 27, 2009 at 6:01 pm (UTC -5 )
I have hunted with hounds my whole life. My whole family has done it. It takes a real hunter and a sharp shooter to kill a deer being ran by dogs. Fist off you have to have a dog that can trail a deer and jump it. Then you have to have a few more dogs to run the deer. Then after that you have to be smarter than the deer. You have to anticipate where the deer is going to run. When that deer comes across the road wide open you have a blink of an eye to kill it. If it was where i had to take a gun or my dogs i would take my dogs. Its more than just killing a deer to me. Its taking that puppy and traning it to be a real hound. Still hunters are excuctions.
Melissa says:
November 28, 2009 at 12:36 pm (UTC -5 )
I’m researching hunting with dogs. Last week we had a devestating experience. We are dog lovers. My husband accidently hit a hunting dog. We killed it. I cried and cried, actually still do. This poor dog had a number painted on her side and big box around her neck. The hunt club was given our numbers by someone that helped us. Later that day they came and got the dog, and their box. But they never contacted us. We would have gladly paid the value of the dog, and then some. It cost several thousand to have our vehicle repaired. After reading on this site I can see where some people truly care for their dogs and see the value in hunting WITH a dog. But people should do it responsibly as one young lady pointed out. There was a truck on the side of the road full of dogs. Not sure if it was the same club but why would anyone allow their dog on a fairly busy road? My husband returned to get our vehicle, we’re out of staters, and passed 3 puppies walking along the same road where we killed a dog. For those who do not hunt it is absolutely devastating to kill a dog. They are domestic animals in our world. Our dog lives in our house, is treated almost like royalty! Hunt responsibly! Also, we swerved to try and avoid the animal. We could have hit another car head on or collided into a tree. We’re lucky it was as little money as it was. It was the mental trauma that was bad. Just wanted to share our story in hopes that people would take care of these beautiful puppies.
dghtr says:
December 4, 2009 at 2:58 pm (UTC -5 )
i will just say this. we hunt with dogs not because we have to or because we cant kill a deer without dogs. we hunt with them because we love doing it and love the sound of your own hunting dogs running a deer. i could go out anyday and kill a deer still hunting, i know this because every time i do still hunt i see at least 10 deer(bucks and does). also i would never kill adeer still hunting unless it was a nice buck becuase i just dont get much excitement (unless im bow hunting). hunting deer with dogs is way more challengeing because hitting a deer running flat out is way harder than sniping them out of a treestand. and dont even think about arguing with that last statement unless youve actually tried it. all in all, with all the anti hunting people these days all hunters should get along because if we dont hunting in general will go on a downward spiral.
Ken says:
January 8, 2010 at 11:12 am (UTC -5 )
Dog hunting deer is a pure social event
There are druggies and drunks in every corner of our social makeup
I do hate it when people put there hounds in bad places, whether it be close to a road ot close to private property where dog hunting is not allowed
The original thread sounded to me as though this person had some strays run across his stand
We take alot of effort in making sure our hounds, if lost can be indentified and we can be contacted
We also use tracking collars
Hunting with hounds as I said above is a social event
The harvest of the animal is only part of the entire event. It has become in some places an event that the use of hounds 15 inches and smaller are required
I do this as it just keeps the entire day alot less stressfull.
One last item I would like to add. most times the deer is taken in front of a pack of hounds, the deer at times can be as far as 15 minutes ahead of the dogs and unless ill or injured the hounds are never “right” behind it
Anyone have any questions about this style of hunting I will be glad to answer them, it is a huge part of my faimlies life, that involves 30-40 of us in the entire days hunt with only 10-15 of us involved in the actual hunt
Billie says:
January 11, 2010 at 12:37 pm (UTC -5 )
You folks are making a case to ban dog hunting and you dont even realize it. Stop talking about shooting at deer running 30 MPH, stop telling people that its your GOD GIVEN RIGHT to dog hunt, because its not, and stop telling people that they are wrong to still hunt because “anybody can execute” a deer still hunting. Im from a dog hunting family and over the last 35 years I have seen dog hunters run across yards shooting deer, running cars off the road, cutting private fences and trespassing, totally disregarding land owners rights and using the same lame excuses. This year, on the 7000 acres surrounding me dog hunting was banned by the timber co. I saw more deer this year on my place than in the last 15 altogether because I didn’t have a pack running through from oct. 1 th jan 31. Sorry guys, but if you dont police yourselves, you are a thing of the past. personally I think its too late, but you can try.
Billy McGregor says:
February 23, 2010 at 7:07 pm (UTC -5 )
I live in appomattox va. I have hunted with dogs all of my life. I have also still hunted. I don’t get the same pleasure from still hunting. Hell I would rather hear the dogs run than kill a deer most days, and all you people bad mouthing people hunting with dogs, don’t knock it until you try it, you don’t know what your missing. My grandpa has hunted with dogs for 70 years and if he was told he couldn’t run his dogs anymore I don’t think he could survive so all you left wing tree huggers can kiss my conservative heritage loving ass. If you don’t want dogs coming on your property then but a fence around it where a dog and a deer can’t cross dogs can’t read. Its not just the dog hunters that hunt from the road I’ve seen plenty of still hunters shoot deer from their truck windows, but they are just bad seeds aren’t they. All I got to say if you want to kill the economy even more then outlaw hunting with dogs and make your President Obama happy cause hell you probly voted for him.
zeek williams says:
March 19, 2010 at 7:38 am (UTC -5 )
I have been hunting with dogs my hole life I am now 19 years old and hearing a good pack of dogs run in one of my favorite sounds in the world. I am from NC and hunting with dogs is part of or culture almost every one has a dog box in the back of there pick up. killing a deer with a pack of dogs hot on em is not an easy task but there is no other thrill that could match it.
Bring Back Texas Dog Hunting says:
May 24, 2010 at 11:40 am (UTC -5 )
Hunting deer with dogs is much more difficult than still hunting. Still hunting allows you to lure in a deer with food plots,corn feeders, doe urine or rattling, and then instantly ambushing them. Dog hunting gives deer the advantage by allowing him to run freely ahead of the dogs. This will always be a much more exciting hunt that is truly missed in the Great State of Texas. I guess Hog Dog Hunting will have to do for now.
Obviously the 1st blogger’s (Dale’s) not much of hunter if he thinks dog hunting is easy.
nelson says:
July 4, 2010 at 7:45 pm (UTC -5 )
I been hunting with dogs all my life . I hunt in a big club in south Louisiana. we dont ride around in trucks cause our hunting grounds is all swamp. We don’t use rifles because its to dangerous ” SHOT GUN ONLY”
nelson says:
July 4, 2010 at 7:59 pm (UTC -5 )
Were all sportsman why cant we just get along . Cause one day yall still hunters might need the dog hunters .If they ban Deer dogs every where whats next Rabbit hunting with dogs ,Bear hunting with dogs, Hog hunting with dogs , Coon hunting with dogs , Squirrel hunting with dogs , Bird hunting with dogs , Then they will ban still hunting cause their is no one else to pick on but the “STILL HUNTERS” And all the dog hunters wont be around to back yall.
championc says:
September 3, 2010 at 6:18 am (UTC -5 )
i have hunted with dogs most of my life. do i think its wrong no them dogs are bred for that purpose. them dogs love nothing more to go huting just like we do but heres the kicker i have killed three times the deer still hunting and killed a whole lot bigger deer still hunting than dog hunting so for all you peta loving fags out there quit trying to make dog hunting illegal them dogs get treated better than most people inside dogs and we really dont just go out there and slaughter deer
dghtr says:
October 7, 2010 at 5:05 pm (UTC -5 )
ill give championc and nelson an amen for what they just said because its the PURE TRUTH any anti dog hunters should read those statements twice, maybe even three times.
dghtr says:
October 7, 2010 at 5:09 pm (UTC -5 )
I dont agree with the shotgun statement though nelson because here in northeastern NC we have alot of big fields and cutovers and rifles can be a necessity but in some counties you have to be 6 feet off the ground (on top of dogbox) to shoot a rifle anyway.
Randall says:
October 11, 2010 at 8:48 am (UTC -5 )
Cant we all just get along! Both sides have legit arguements, I myself have 6 Bluetick hounds for deer, and 3 cur dogs for hogs. Every sport has a**holes, Dogs cant read trespassing signs. And Im sure no stillhunter has ever hunted on a wildlife boundary line/private property, and waited for the deer to cross that imaginary line to be perfectly lagal. Not saying it right wrong or indifferent, but not all dog hunters are drunk,irresponsible, cocaine smoking dumb rednecks. Somebody brought up earlier about appalachicola forest is where they had a bad experience. That just so happens to be where I go dog hunting, and you dont hear me complaining about the still hunters hunting in the dog hunting areas that shot 3 deer in front of my dogs last year. Little FYI, I helped the hunters drag them out of the woods. And NO i didnt know them. So like I said in the beginning “cant we all just get along”
Matthew says:
October 14, 2010 at 10:23 pm (UTC -5 )
Look it is a way of life the oldest form of hunting in the world. Most dog runners are responsible hunter and almost all of us still hunt to b4 dog season comes in. But i want someone to explain to me how it is cheating or eaiser the sitting in a stand. Most soley still hunters in my area cheat and use corn which is illigal in my state. Then when a deer steps out they are concentrated on the food all u have to do is pull up the rifle and pull the trigger and well if u missed either ur gun is off or u need to stop hunting. When we run dogs the deer are being chased that means they are running that means they become a harder target to hit so that makes it harder than shooting a deer standing still. And 2 the retard who said we belive in if it is brown it down well oh well if it is legal u cant it the rack. also to being dumb rednecks i have a masters in history so suck it. and if u dont like dog running move up north with all the other rack hunting cheaters
Angie says:
November 3, 2010 at 2:28 pm (UTC -5 )
I am from Kentucky and had never hunted with dogs now I own Beagles 16 to be exact I live in Louisiana now. It is not what your think it is. Beagles do not run a deer to death they can be miles ahead or right on their tail but Beagles are slow and a deer can be out of the area before a beagle catches up. Now the walker dogs the bigger dogs I do not like cause they can be right on their tail and run a deer to much. As far as getting on other property and around other hunters well our Garmin tracking GPS collars help prevent alot of that. We can cut em off if headed towards others property. We do not put a dog on the ground with out one. We have a lot better relationship with or neighbor hunters that are near our lease and alot of times they use it to their advantage they will ask us where we turning loose and will get on their land to get involved. Still hunters which I am also have a month to still hunt before dog season begins here in Louisiana. It is a felony to kill someones dog here in Louisiana ,how would you like it if someone did that to one of your dogs? It is not the dogs fault to do what it is trained to do. We carry the papers that say what the laws are for dog hunters in our trucks if we need them. Oh one more thing if perhaps our dog does get on someones land we know exactly where they are at with the GPS we can go fetch them by law but cannot carry a weapon. Before someone has a comment hunt with dogs first so you know what you are talking about then you would understand what it is and what it is not.
Jordan says:
November 7, 2010 at 6:23 pm (UTC -5 )
People, why are we fighting over this? Deer hunting with dogs is just as challenging as still hunting, I know because I have experienced both, and I can tell you that as long as you hunt ethically(like no drug or alcohol use on the hunt-what’s with that?) You can have a challenging,fun, and successful hunt.
Matthew says:
November 10, 2010 at 1:16 pm (UTC -5 )
Still hunters break the law just as much as dog runners the other week i had a guy pull up on the field across from me and shoot a deer out of the field and i live on the side of my county were dog running is illegal and plus dog running has not even come in yet but think god it does in a week ill be on the other side of the county listening to that sweet music
T. in NC says:
November 19, 2010 at 12:32 pm (UTC -5 )
I agree with the guy who said we shouldn’t be arguing over this issue. I am a long time still hunter with a farm that borders a large hunting club that hunts with dogs. I have never hunted with dogs and probably never will. I hunt this way because it was the way that my daddy taught me to hunt, and if he had taught me to hunt with dogs I probably would have. I spend some money on my property tring to make it better every year fo me and my family and occasionally we have hunting dogs to run across chasing deer which I use to get angry at. Now I try to see it more that we need to get along for the sake of our children to be able to hunt at all. I love to hunt, I want my kids to be able to hunt and I’m sure you all do too. If its still hunting or hunting with dogs that you preffer just be ethical. Don’t hunt land that you don’t have permission on. Don’t run dog’s on land you don’t have permission to hunt. If you go on someone’s land to recover a deer or a dog be respectful don’t buck up with people who catch you trespassing be apologetic, remember you are the one that’s wrong. If land is posted stay away from it. Don’t bash your fellow hunters for they way they want to hunt or we could all be hunting illegally one day when they outlaw it because hunters couldn’t get along amongst themselves muchless the people who dont hunt and are offended by hunting. Stick together hunters! If a dog runs on your land then read the collar and call the owner and talk to him or her and ask nicely how the dog ended up on your land. Letem come get it and tell them you would appreciate it if they would not run dogs on your land. If you own dogs and get this phone call be polite and thank the person for catching your dog. I’ve had people get pissed at me for catching thier dog on my property and I was really tring to be nice. If you dont understand one method of hunting research it if you think you might like it try it. If not stick with your way but don’t bash someone else we all have different opinions and thats all they are. Anyway be nice and keep hunting and take a child hunting without knocking other hunters.
Donny says:
November 27, 2010 at 8:28 am (UTC -5 )
I still hunt and have my own 35 acers. I keep to myself and enjoy hunting. It doesn,t matter how you hunt everyone should experience it. the problem i have is the dogs have no boundaries and its not just ones or twice it is the hole season.It is imposable to still hunt when dogs keep running by.The dear that have been here all summer are gone when they start running the dogs.When i confront them on my land instead of apologizing they are confrontational and they have the right to be on my land to get the dogs. He asked me cant i shoot a dear while it was running andi needed to adapt.In Va they can retreve their dogs on foot, one person no guns no truck and if asked for id they must prvide it or it a class 4 mistmeaner.The bottom line is i paid aot of money for my place, i pay taxes on it and it is my land not yours.
tyler says:
December 8, 2010 at 11:33 am (UTC -5 )
I am a kid i am 15 years old i was raised on dog hunting and i will raise my children on it people dont realize that its not about killing a deer im 15 i could care less about killing a deer i just love to hear my dogs run and have a good time with everybody and for all yall still hunters that think running dogs aint a sport wat do u think still hunting is. all u do is sit in a boring treestand waiting for a deer to come out because they HAVE to eat and shoot them with a high powered rifle? and most steel hunters only shoot big bucks? thats sport hunting and its wrong just to shoot a deer for whats on his head. and if u think dog hunting is not a sport i would like to see u go out in the woods and shoot a deer running with a pack of beagles behind it. and if a dog gets on your land u cannot just say that someone dumped dogs out on your land they could have came from miles and miles away. So thats for all yall still hunters. and for all dogs hunters yall just keep getting it
Colby says:
December 23, 2010 at 9:16 pm (UTC -5 )
Ok guys and gals here goes I will say this as best as I possibly can it is not about whether or not you agree with the sport of dog hunting or not too many dog hunters versus hunters get hung up on the arguments threats and insults first of GROW UP guys and realize that this is deeper than this because if you think it will stop with just taking away dog deer hunting then you better re-evalute your way of thinking it is just a starting place so wake up out there American Hunters and realize that we do still live in a free country and this is our land set asside many years ago By Teddy Roosevelt to ensure that EVERYBODY who wanted could enjoy it so stop judging each other and stick together for once in American History can we please get past all the petty squabbles and focus on the REAL PROBLEM!!!!!!!!
Roger says:
January 3, 2011 at 7:24 pm (UTC -5 )
This whole “peace loving, we all need to get along” theory is simply crap. Sorry to blow a hole in your theory dog hunters but travel anywhere that large, mature whitetails are taken and dog hunting is one thing and one thing only POACHING. I don’t mean penned up, food plot fed deer either. Still/stand hunting involves the natural movement of the animal and intercepting it undetected. What do you know at all about the outdoors and nature if you set a bunch of hounds loose to do all the work for you? I don’t care how fast the deer is moving you have already removed any of the sport from it. Do some homework and research where the big bodied and big racked animals come from, its the midwest and Canada you clowns. Also take the argument out that still hunters are trophy hunters because that is a gross exageration and you are posting on a site calle “www.DEERHUNTINGBIGBUCKS.com”. And I do have a first hand knowledge of this supposed “ethical dog hunting” because unfortunately I reside in Eastern North Carolina where it does not matter where your dog runs or if you can keep track of it “because that’s the way my grandaddy dun it.” And please, whatever side of the argument you are on, try to spell one or two words correctly and attempt to make yourself look like you have some sense. It may give your words some merit.
Tim says:
January 4, 2011 at 12:10 pm (UTC -5 )
Had this problem last week. My dad and I own over a 100 acres in North Louisiana and have never subscribed to hunting deer with dogs even though we have been on deer drives in Mississippi back in the 80′s. On the evening of Dec 27th at 5:00 the dogs started running and yelping on our property edge and on an ajoining privately owned hunting property. These dogs belonged to a hunting club who leases land over a mile away. Simply put dogs do not have a sense of property boundries, but their owners do. That evening nothing moved with the exception of a solitary rabbit that wouldn’t expose itself more than 2 foot from a thicket. When I got back to the vehicle after dark my dad was talking to an individual that was looking for his dogs, my dad had previously yelled at him informing him that he was on privately owned property at which point he continued to drive further onto our property. This guy tells us dogs don’t see boundries and that he loves the sound of the dogs yelping chasing game. He then proceeds to start yelling and yelping for his dogs which were on the east end of our property and were running back to his calls the entire length of our property. The next morning nothing moved again; when I checked game cameras there was basically no animal movement for the 3 previous days – getting my picture. I’ve had contact with dogs runners my entire life and the overwhelming characteristics is bad manners, bad educations, my pa did it this way, total lack of regard for laws, and high powered automatic rifles. They should outlaw this method statewide for the simple fact that private property is private for a reason and with that landownership comes rights; you cannot control where dogs run when roads or limited. People who spend vast sums of money to develop the best wildlife and forestry habitat possible to pass on to their children shouldn’t have to deal with this nuisance from someone that paid $100.00 for a gun slot with a 60 member hunting club. Go in the woods and actually develop some good hunting skills for Christ sake! When you have a parish with a deer density of 45 per square mile there is no reason you have to run dogs to kill your share of deer – it’s laziness of the worst kind. I know I’ll have some people that agree and disagree; nontheless, I had my say.
Justin says:
February 23, 2011 at 12:54 pm (UTC -5 )
I hunt National Forest in East Texas. Dog runners have become a huge problem, and a major threat to the deer population. It started out as just a small group cutting dogs lose in certain areas. You could hunt away from them. Now its a group of over 40, staying on the hunt almost year round. They even sometimes run them in the summer, if you think that all bad. I haven’t even told you the worse yet. They kill everything, does, yearlings, adolescent bucks.(Its a 2 doe 2 buck county,does only before thanksgiving,and has to be killed on MLD or private property one buck has to have a spread of 13″ or greater, and one has to have at least one un-branched antler) There killing 60-70 illegal deer a year that’s not including the what would be legal ones they kill. On top of it all the have been caught several times, half of them don’t have licences, cause they’ve been caught, But yet there are in the woods year after year killing the hell out of what ever moves. At the rate they kill deer, future generations will never experience the thrill of killing a mature buck, or even a whitetail at all. They need to be stopped and fast!! But there is no one on the job, they are free to break the law at will.
Solomon Chavis says:
May 4, 2011 at 1:38 am (UTC -5 )
I love deer hunting with dogs. I take many of the kids from my church and my family everyweekend, and they love it. I could care less if i took my gun deer huntin or rabbit huntin its just the thrill i get out of it hearin my pack smoke. if dog hunting is a problem just move in the city so u wont hav to wory bout it. AKA Slow MAN (((SOUTH HILL TOP HUNTING CLUB)))))))) HOKE COUNTY
Fraternity man says:
May 5, 2011 at 12:39 am (UTC -5 )
I am absolutely furious at the way dog hunters have been put down by certain people here. I am a man of the law that grew up dog hunting and I will do so until the day my body is Lao to rest. I am sick and tired of being put into a category of “cocain using, drunk, toothless redneck”. It is the easiest thing to discriminate but that’s also why you are still hunters. The way I see it you scout an area a few times set a stand and hunt. My dying breed trains dogs year round, creates a companionship with them, and finally gets the chance to hunt these beautiful hounds. You can sit there and make accusations that all dog hunters are outlaws….I can do the same with still hunters. If you are too dumb to realize that the outlaws today are the still hunters drunkenly pissed off about their terrible hunting strategy drunkenly running the roads shooting any eye they see on the sides of the roads. You can levee this proposition as much as you like and take this form of hunting from me and others like me but we will not go down without a fight. As far as shooting hunting dogs, you shoot my dogs and you, sir, are truly in trouble. See I’m in a dog hunting organization that will insure that your right to hunt will be taken from you and you will pay for the dog. I’m truly sorry for the unorganized rant but I’m tired of this. Any man that wishes to challenge don’t waste your time, I have seen your dumb statements and the only thing I can say is go back to school.
Matthew says:
May 21, 2011 at 1:35 pm (UTC -5 )
whoever commented on texas deer dogs they are stupid it is illegal to hunt deer wit dogs in texas they are prolly hunting hogs and if u dont like it go up north or where u cant run dogs and get the hell over it
Jordan says:
May 31, 2011 at 9:22 pm (UTC -5 )
Haha, I find this very amusing how some ignorant yankee can try to tell us that shooting a deer while running, at 400 yards, is easier than shooting a deer standing perfectly still over a corn pile. This bullshit about the dogs catching the deer and tearing it apart is a lie… the dogs very rarely, if ever, even catch the deer. A blind-drunk, idiot could shoot a deer standing still from 100 yards away, try shooting one running through a cutdown at 250 yards. Oh, and one more thing, the crap about torturing the dogs? The dogs are born to hunt… its in their blood. If you take hunting away from them, you might as well kill them. The reason they are so skinny is because they run all the fat that they put on, off, while running the deer. Besides, the sound of a pack of walkers hot on a deer’s ass is the most beautiful sound known to mankind.
Jordan says:
May 31, 2011 at 9:39 pm (UTC -5 )
They can’t take it away from NC, if they do… there will be hell to pay. I don’t give a rat’s ass about anything anti-doghunters have to say, but if you think its right to take something away from us that we love with a passion, that our father’s and their father’s before them enjoyed and loved, then go ahead and try. I don’t know about ya’ll… but my best memories come from sittin with my daddy in the truck, listenin to the dogs run. So if you think you can waltz right in and take it from me, you got another thing coming.
Leigh says:
June 10, 2011 at 10:14 pm (UTC -5 )
First of all Deer hunting with dogs is a way of life. People have been hunting with dogs for countless generations. I am a still hunter for the part of the season when running dogs is illegal, but when General firearms deer season rolls around I am an all out dog running fool. I will say some people/clubs that do run dogs, do so irresponsibly. This is the same with still hunters. Some still hunters have no control in the woods. they just aren’t as obvious as the irresponsible dog running deer hunters. As I read through these comments I noticed a lot of people angry about people’s dogs running deer on there property. I see how this can be annoying, but there is little we can do to prevent this. A responsible dog running deer hunter keeps careful tab on where his dogs are. The technology available to Dog runners today is remarkable, and can be used to track and retrieve dogs quickly and efficiently. It doesn’t make sense to me when Ignorant dog runners don’t invest in such equipment, because I know the pain of losing deer dogs. Dog runners invest thousands of dollars in food and medical bills in there dogs, not to mention the hours of preseason training.
ken says:
June 29, 2011 at 10:03 am (UTC -5 )
i dont care if you hunt with dogs. all you have to do is stay on your property that you are allowed to hunt cause if your dog comes on mine then guess what that dog is mine and you will pay dearly to get him back i dont care if dogs cant read you can and you should knoew that there is other people out there hunting there property like you are trying to do stay off mine and i want have to own your dog.
Franklin says:
August 14, 2011 at 6:27 pm (UTC -5 )
The dogs are running on your property because the deer that was on my property ran over there…. Do me a favor and shoo that deer back onto my property and the dogs will follow… The deer can’t read either… haha…
All good comments. Stop painting both sides of the issue with such a broad brush, and consider working together to prevent the anti-hunters in general from settling the argument for us.
admin says:
August 15, 2011 at 9:27 am (UTC -5 )
I like the comment Franklin. You are making me think here. I see what you are saying we need to work together and work it out or the damn antis will. Divided we fall together we stand. I don’t know what the soloution is but we both need to understand both sides love what they do and it is something that runs deep in our blood and it can’t taken out of us we will love it until the day we die.I’m sure I would love dog hunting if I ever had the chance to do it. Dog hunters don’t take this the wrong way just try to put yourself in my shoes for a second. From the view of a hunter that bow hunts from the stand on land that I paid $800- $1200 to hunt, spent 500-1000 in food plots, shot my bow daily,scouted,put out stands,cut shooting lanes, saved my hard earned vacation for those few special days in November during the rut when the bucks most likely to be vunerable all the hard work to have dogs come through during that golden hour and run the big buck into the next county that you spent hours putting out trail cameras and trying to pattern him it is frustrating. Surely dog hunters can understand that. I’m not attacking dog hunters I’m trying explain to them why it would be frustrating.I’m not saying my way is the only way or the better way I just want them to see why it would be frustrating. Maybe if the two seasons where at different times there would be a lot less conflict between the two because they would be in the woods at different times. Or maybe we just keep calling each other names and acting like kids and one day we all lose our hunting privelleges.
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